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Lavender's AP Lit Class Blog
Friday, March 23, 2012
crazy
Thursday, March 22, 2012
Misogyny in Hamlet (Marialexa's Post)
Wednesday, March 21, 2012
Sane or Insane
This one is actually from Ryan, the surfer girl.
Oppression of women
- How the women react to how they are treated (they do nothing about it).
- The position the women were put in....such as the queen in marrying the King. What would have happened if she hadn't married him?
- Hamlet's treatment of his mother.
- The difference with Hamlet's madness and Ophelia's. Ophelia was shown to have just turned into this lunatic who sings to herself and no one knows what is going on with her, and then in the end she winds up killing herself. Whereas with Hamlet, he isn't necessarily portrayed that way. He is shown to be noble and everyone still loves him. He has just gone a little off the deep end.
I am still needing to add a lot more key events and scenes but don't exactly know what all to use with this topic.
Tuesday, March 20, 2012
Madness vs. Grief
I will be writing about the theme of madness and how grief creates this madness. I will be comparing Hamlet's madness to Ophelia's madness. We don't really know if Hamlet is faking his madness or if it is real. Or he might have been faking in the beginning and that led him to be mad for real. He said that being mad might be to his advantage in killing Claudius. He is also looked at to be mad because he has the thought of suicide throughout the book. This is looked to be mad because it is a sin to commit suicide during these times. But his suicidal thoughts could be real and caused by his father's murder. Ophelia's madness is real. Her madness is linked to her father's death. She actually ended up committing suicide, so her and Hamlet are related in many ways. Hamlet's "madness" is also linked to his father's death. Grief and madness are linked throughout this play.
Hamlet is mad because of his father's murder and he wants to get Claudius back
Ophelia goes mad because of her father's death which is linked to Hamlet's madness too
Hamlet killed Ophelia's father because of Claudius killing Hamlet Sr.
This theme of madness is circular. And this circularity is caused by grief.
Madness is caused by grief.
Hamlet: Grief/Insanity
Gertrude and Claudius
Overall, I will be analyzing the effect the relationship has on Hamlet and his emotions throughout the play. Specifically, I will be looking at scenes where Claudius and Gertrude interact, and scenes in which Hamlet mentions his mother as well as scenes wherein the two communicate.
Hamlet Mortality
Monday, March 19, 2012
Hamlet
action over thought
Hamlet Post
For my essay on the play Hamlet I am torn between focusing on the two characters Laertes and Hamlet and the similar situations that they experience or the difference between how Hamlet reacts to his father’s death and how Ophelia reacts to her father’s death.
I think that the comparison between Laertes and Hamlet would be interesting because the situations mirror each other.
Toward the end of the play, Hamlet, it becomes fairly apparent that Laertes and Hamlet are very similar. Both Laertes and Hamlet are put into situations that are very similar to each other. At the very beginning of the play Hamlet is faced with the horrible feeling that his father has been murdered. Hamlet is haunted by the ghost of his father and the ghost shows Hamlet the truth about his father’s death and Hamlet is encouraged to seek revenge for his father. The ghost shows him that his own uncle killed his father and Hamlet is constantly persuaded to kill his uncle.
After Hamlet kills Polonius, Laertes is overcome with grief and just like Hamlet he is encouraged to seek revenge from an outside source. The king brings Laertes into his chambers and he tells Laertes that his father deserves to be avenged and the king encourages Laertes to kill Hamlet.
However I also think that the comparison between Ophelia and Hamlet would be a good topic because there is the option to compare how women and men react to grief differently. Hamlet and Ophelia very obviously deal with the death of their fathers in very different ways, yet for both of them it is just how they deal with the grief of losing a loved one.
Role of Friendship in Hamlet
Friendship plays two significantly different roles within the Shakespeare tragedy Hamlet. I believe that Shakespeare believes that friendship is either complete and utter loyalty between the friends or disloyalty that results from ones wish to gain acknowledgment from superior beings, such as the king. Rosencrantz and Guildenstern were swayed by the superiority of the king and the power that he holds. They drifted from being the classic childhood lifelong friends of Hamlet and became spies for the king regarding the apparent madness of Hamlet. These two “friends” of Hamlet were going behind his back in order to gain the approval of the King. It is ironic that these two disloyal friends ended up being sent to their death via Hamlet’s devious plans. Horatio on the other hand is a true loyal friend. He was willing to die with Hamlet at the end of the tragedy. He was with Hamlet throughout the entire tragedy and supported him. He was a great friend to Hamlet, a true friend. He did what he was asked and loyally supported him in his endeavors. He hadn’t abandoned Hamlet at the first signs of Hamlet’s madness. Another friendship that ended in disloyalty was between the King and Laertes. They seemed to be friends when the created the plan to kill Hamlet. Their friendship originated from their hatred of Hamlet and the need for both of them to take part in the plan to kill Hamlet. After their plan failed and backfired, Laertes threw the King under the bus. The supposed friendship had been based only off of the needs of the individual, which happened to be the same idea of killing Hamlet (but for very different reasons).
The role of friendship within the tragedy Hamlet takes on a very peculiar form. The friendship either originated from the desire for ones own advancement by sacrificing friendship for selfishness (as in the King and Laeretes, as well as Rosencrantz and Guildenstern’s relationship with Hamlet) or the desire to help others with self improvement and problems (as in Hamlet and Horatio’s relationship). Shakespeare has a very particular view on friendship and this is evident within his tragedy of Hamlet.
Hamlet: Is revenge justified?
Even though revenge seems like the thing to do at the time, people have to be bigger than revenge. Revenge is a never ending cycle of hate and as long as people keep avenging other people the cycle won't stop.
Revenge can happen in better ways like sending the person to prison and let the law deal with them, instead of murdering the person you were trying to get revenge on. Hamlet was in a tough situation because back then there was no justice system like we have today in America and it was just what the king said. If Hamlet would have gone down a less violent path i don't think he would have gotten the king in trouble. In those situations what do you do? Do you just turn the other cheek and just let the person go off with no consequence? Or do you get payback? It seems like any decision you make is the wrong one because one option you look like a panzy and the other option you stoop to the level of the person that you are trying to get revenge on. Like i said earlier today there's better ways of getting revenge than just killing the person, but back then it seems like that was your only choice.
I don't know, i just don't know!!! There have to be better ways of getting revenge than killing someone, there has to be a way to stop the never ending circle of hate. Revenge just brings more hate because when Bill avenges someone, then Stanley will want to avenge the person that Bill got his revenge on, then Mr. Right will want to get his revenge on Stanley for killing Bill. It just doesn't stop. Just like how Claudius killed Hamlet senior, then Hamlet killed Poloinius even though it wasn't intentional, but that made Laertes want to revenge on Hamlet. In the end, it just screwed up almost all of the characters' (in the play) lives because almost all of them died. Was it worth it? Was it worth going through all that pain and suffering? This is what the endless circle of hate does. it just doesn't stop manipulating people's minds and almost every human falls into the circle at least once.
It's hard to say which side i want to be on. All i want is to stop this circle of hate, but then again i understand why someone would want to get revenge. I don't know how to stop it, but all i know is that it won't stop unless people realize what could happen to them and other people if they try to get revenge in a grotesque way. There has to be a way to get revenge without all the extreme hate that takes place in almost every revenge. I don't know how anyone can find it, but there must be a way, nothing is impossible.
PS: Sorry for all the rambling i just trying to throw out ideas here. i guess i'll be on the side of revenge shouldn't be justified, but sometimes people feel like they don't have any other options, like Hamlet.
Presentation of Women in Hamlet
In the majority of the speeches this idea is apparent, the women have no say, and are constantly manipulated. They are portrayed as an object, or tool, rather than an actual human being.
The oppression starts out fairly early in the novel when Polonious orders Ophelia to spy on Hamlet, regardless that he is the man she is in love with. Her father manipulates her so much that she begins to question whether or not the love they share is genuine. (that is just a start to what I will explain about the oppression of Ophelia) I will further show the oppression by breaking down speeches to show how exactly the women are oppressed. for example- conversation on page 131 between Hamlet and Ophelia.
Gertrude is also mistreated tremendously, she has no problem believing that there wasn't any foul play when her husband was killed. Claudius manipulates her so much, that he is able to convince her to marry him. She married him only a few weeks after she lost her brother, which goes to show that women would do whatever men told them to do, without standing up for themselves. Women were so oppressed and brainwashed that she began to believe Claudius would provide her with happiness even though he killed her own BROTHER.
Overall I am going to show through the speeches in the novel that women are mistreated and presented in a poor way.
Spying in Shakespeare
I will use the following scenes:
- Polonius - stabbed by Hamlet (spying on Queen and Hamlet) (Forces Ophelia to leave Hamlet)
- Rosencrantz and Guildenstern - killed in England (ordered by the King and Queen to spy on Hamlet)
- King - killed by Hamlet (spied on Hamlet w/ Polonius) (murdered his brother) (attempted to murder Hamlet) (ordered Hamlet's death in England)
- Queen - poisoned by King (married King too fast)
- Laertes - poisoned by sward (attempted to kill Hamlet)
- Hamlet - poisoned by sward (killed Polonius) (faked madness) (contemplated suicide)
- Ophelia - suicide (helped her father/King spy on Hamlet)
Hamlets madness
- The main thing that had made him insane was the death of his father
- Then once he talked to the ghost and found out that his father was murdered by his very own brother, that was the main breaking point of all of his madness
- He was contemplating suicide the whole play
- During the play about his fathers death you could see his madness in just what he was saying, and how he was interrupting the entire play
- when he was throwing and pressing Ophelia's face up on the mirror
- Interrupter the play of his fathers death
- Killing Polonius....
Is Hamlet mad? I think so.
Hamlet converts from the intelligent prince to a hasty murder. This madness is pushed from the Ghost, who changes Hamlet irrational. The final point of Hamlet's madness is when he accepts his own death and declares that fate has already set it's course and he has no input on it's decisions. He has accepted his thoughts of suicide and and realized that to take revenge for King Hamlet he must go to extreme lengths to do so, regardless if these mad lengths entail his own death. Hamlet turns truely suicidal and thus mad.
Rachel-Hamlet
There are many things that point to this idea within the play. Hamlet's contemplation of suicide (pg.29+97). Also the casualness with which Hamlet regards certain deaths versus others. This could definitely be due to his ideas about fate. As well the way our decisions are nothing but illusions. We may think we are shaping our future but it has already been decided for us. This is evident in his decision not to kill the king during prayer. And the biggest thing that I want to discuss is how fate, no matter how it guides us, directs us all to the same end because death is the great equalizer. (pg. 251) I have actually already written my first draft so these are the main points I have covered in my paper and in addition I have included my opinion on Shakespeare's broader message. But any feedback would be awesome, if anyone has any other passages that refer to death that I have not already mentioned herein.
As well here are some other passages I will use to discuss the idea of fate: (pg. 271-72) (pg.259).
Hamlet Essay-Notes
There are simply hundreds of Essay topic that could be written about Hamlet. It was a hard decision choosing what I wanted to write about. I thought about the treatment of women or Hamlets madness. I wanted a topic that I could maybe use both of the others so I decided.....
-What is the significance of suicide in Hamlet, and what impacts does it have on the main characters?
-Suicide is a very important theme in Shakespeare’s Hamlet. Hamlet constantly questions whether or not he should be living or not.
-I will discuss how suicide was viewed in the setting, socially and religiously.
-And how in the Christian religion it is viewed as a sin.
-I’m going to use the two soliloquies “O, that this too too solid flesh would melt” and “To be or not to be.” These are the two quotes that really show evidence of Hamlets contemplation of suicide.
-I will probably also bring in how madness is a key factor in his contemplation of suicide and if he was really mad from early on or how acting mad really drove him to true craziness
-I will discuss why humans, very capable of suicide, choose to live even in the cruel, and injustice world.
-Ophelia will also be analyzed in my essay and how the death of a loved one can make people insane and drive them to suicide.
-And I will analyze the mystery of her death.
-I will also depict the conversation between the two gravediggers discussing whether she should have a proper Christian burial or if she actually did commit suicide.
Action Versus Thought
Hamlet thinks through everything before he carrys through with it.
On the other hand, Fortinbras is the one who portrays direct action. As soon as he takes the throne after the death of his father, he wants to take direct action and revenge his father by fighting against Denmark. He is pursauded by his uncle not to attack Denmark. But he then goes to attack Poland, to recover land simply for revenge of his father, and for honor. He then from there goes on to take over Denmark, and recover land his father lost. He immediately revenges his father, he takes direct action.
Shakespeare likes action over thought. Hamlet could have saved his mothers life as well as Ophelia, Polonius, Laertes, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern if he would have killed Cladius the first chance he got. Instead he waited and becuase he thought about it many people died who didn't have to die. Hamlet could have saved those lives if he would of taken direct action. Fortinbras also portrays how Shakespeare likes action more. Fortinbras conquers Poland simply for revenge and honor, and in the end Fortinbras ends up taking over Denmark, he ends up being king and on top of everything. By Fortinbras being the victor in the end, Shakespeare shows that action is better than thought.
Hamlet Essay
To prove that Hamlet goes mad, we can look at act 5 scene 2 when Hamlet is talking to Laertes before he has the fencing fight with Laertes. Hamlet says "What I have done that might your nature, honor, and exception roughly awake, I here proclaim was madness."
To prove Ophelia's madness, we can look at when she was running around the castle singing songs in act 4 scene 5. She first sings of he father's death and about Saint Valentine's day.
To prove that Laertes has gone mad, we can look at act 4 scene 7 when he is talking to the King about how they are going to murder Hamlet.
Hamlet Essay
Shakespeare’s Hamlet grabbed my attention from its possible misogynist perspective. Although revered for his many prolific pieces, Shakespeare is often accused of being a misogynist. His masterpieces reveal a controversial portrayal of women. Primarily in the Hamlet play, there is a vast amount of evidence suggesting that it was written from a misogynist view.
One of the more obvious examples suggesting that Shakespeare was indeed a misogynist includes Hamlet’s aggressive response to his mother’s quick marriage. Beginning on page 173, Hamlet slowly builds up to completely demean Gertrude’s decisions and overall her as a person. His attacks on her reveal the superiority men can have over women.
Ophelia on the other hand is also portrayed as the "bad guy." Her passionate relationship with Hamlet is frowned upon by Polonius, Gertrude, Claudius...the list goes on. Her forbidden love for Hamlet doesn't stop her from having sexual relations with him and in the end backfires. In fact, her love for Hamlet goes so far as to drive her crazy (literally.) She sings of Hamlet backstabbing her with the very promise of marriage and essentially commits suicide. After killing herself, the reader gets a sense of just how insecure the women are in this play and how desperate(for lack of word) they are for love.
The play also subtly portrays a misogynist view when Laertes talks to his sister Ophelia about Hamlet. He tell her to not lose her virginity to "keep her treasure." Laertes's advice possibly suggests to the reader that women are supposed to always be pure, and not commit the ultimate sin that Eve carried out.
Overall, the play in general introduces the reader to only two women as opposed to the several male characters. Was this a coincidence or carefully though out by Shakespeare? My goal is to decipher the text and look for evidence suggesting that Shakespeare indeed wrote this play from a misogynist point of view.